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The Universe and Everything in it.

So, Jil-qun. if it was not God...then how DID the universe and everything in it get here? If you think that the idea of God doing it is so dumb, what is the alternative explanation?

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Does anyone here believe that there was ever a state of reality where nothing whatsoever exists, neither God, mind, matter, or energy?

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Here's my paradox... if there was such a state, did the laws of the universe exist, or are those actually bottled up within the matter and individual particles that the universe is made of?

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Billy. An infinite series is something can only exist in math. Google the Kalam cosmological argument. There are various forms of it but I'm sure they all describe why an infinite series cannot...

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Kinda like a shoe box with the stars being holes poked in it.

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hehe

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Here is a nice readable article by Paul Davies that applies to the topic being discussed. http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/big-bang.html Some quotes: "Mostly, quantum events occur at the...

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Maybe just bouncing back and forth from a parallel universe?

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Billy. An infinite series is something can only exist in math. Google the Kalam cosmological argument. There are various forms of it but I'm sure they all describe why an infinite series cannot...

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Only in it's infinite wisdom!

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WolfWearingSheep wrote: Does anyone here believe that there was ever a state of reality where nothing whatsoever exists, neither God, mind, matter, or energy? ok, in the spirit of yogi i must. for how...

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shinobinoz1 wrote: Only in it's infinite wisdom! lol, well said yogi

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Given that these atomic antics take place within energy rich space-time, as I noted earlier, I think it is a bit presumptuous to state that they defy causality.

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Well, they might not defy causality, but they certainly defy our ability to detect their cause.

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Indeed.

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Or just a shoe box with holes poked in it as I said. Ever wondered if all of the religions of the world are actually referring to space travelers?

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The Spaceship in Bible and Quran wonder why or if they left

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The curious thing about this discussion is how different approaches give different support to religious viewpoints. How does a fully deterministic universe bolster the case for God? How does a...

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Or the same "why" questions in different approaches led to different religions formations.

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